A chat with USA citizen about Pakistan (afghanistan etc too)

Just had a chat with a USA client thought to share it here! please don’t shoot me if there is something wrong that i said about Pakistan! correct me through comments! :)

The guy is my client for some online business and i asked him some verification questions regarding payment, so in the end he asked me if he can ask a question from me! unexpectedly he asked me stuff about Pakistan and us troops in Pakistan. Well, i wasn’t prepared for the question, but tried my best to answer it, maybe wrong, people may not agree with me! If not then please let me know the real stuff, so that I can correct my knowledge.

I’ve copied the chat that i had with him (replacing his name with American and mine with Pakistani ) Purpose of sharing this info is to share the stuff that what questions Americans have and what a typical Pakistani like me thinks about the answers. Also, the purpose is that if I am wrong about some fact, then want myself to know the better reality.

[5:07:24 AM] American: but since you asked me a q, I have one of my own if you don’t mind
[5:07:31 AM] Pakistani: sure
[5:07:31 AM] Pakistani: ?
[5:07:39 AM] American: no, just 1 for now
[5:08:31 AM] American: hows life in Pakistan with the us troops there and stuff? All we see here is bullshit news that seems very fake
[5:08:39 AM] American: whats really going on
[5:08:41 AM] Pakistani: umm
[5:08:50 AM] Pakistani: i am not sure what news shows there as never seen your channels
[5:09:01 AM] Pakistani: but us troops are not openly active in Pakistan
[5:09:05 AM] Pakistani: although black water is
[5:09:19 AM] Pakistani: us forces are in afghanistan though
[5:09:35 AM] American: oic
[5:09:46 AM] American: I got the countries mixed up
[5:09:50 AM] Pakistani: well
[5:09:51 AM] Pakistani: u didnt
[5:09:56 AM] Pakistani: they have quite efforts going on here too
[5:10:00 AM] Pakistani: like i said its not openly active here
[5:10:18 AM] Pakistani: but since 1980′s when us wanted to defeat russia
[5:10:20 AM] American: do you think we are helping at all?
[5:10:39 AM] Pakistani: they developed force in afghanistan using isi (intelligence of pakistan) in colaboration with cia of usa
[5:10:54 AM] Pakistani: that force helped in breaking down russia
[5:10:59 AM] Pakistani: and now that force is called taliban
[5:11:44 AM] American: how do you feel about the USA leaving there next year (if they do indeed leave)?
[5:11:56 AM] Pakistani: umm
[5:12:04 AM] Pakistani: well u may not understand the answer
[5:12:07 AM] Pakistani: but here it is:
[5:12:09 AM] Pakistani: nothing wil change for Pakistan
[5:12:11 AM] Pakistani: why?
[5:12:12 AM] Pakistani: coz
[5:12:34 AM] Pakistani: actually wht i told u above about talibans
[5:12:40 AM] Pakistani: brb call
[5:12:43 AM] American: k
[5:13:04 AM] Pakistani: ok
[5:13:28 AM] Pakistani: as taliban was force created by Pakistani cia to work for usa against russia
[5:13:37 AM] Pakistani: they were usa friendly
[5:13:43 AM] Pakistani: but once russia was defeated
[5:13:47 AM] Pakistani: and america left them on their own
[5:13:56 AM] Pakistani: the generation of warriors was there
[5:14:05 AM] Pakistani: so when u dnt keep them busy in something
[5:14:10 AM] Pakistani: they will start using their force somewhere
[5:14:25 AM] Pakistani: so first they started conquering afghanistan’s government
[5:14:28 AM] Pakistani: which they did
[5:14:49 AM] Pakistani: and then they started destroying jewish and illuminati establishments in afghanistan
[5:15:01 AM] Pakistani: so that turned on the new movement around the globe
[5:15:11 AM] Pakistani: illuminati used usa again to attack afghanistan
[5:15:22 AM] Pakistani: by the fake terrorism of 9/11 etc
[5:15:38 AM] Pakistani: n started fighting against talibans
[5:16:02 AM] Pakistani: when they attacked in afghanistan, some people joined us, so now there are 2 types of talibans, one us allies and one against
[5:16:13 AM] Pakistani: but now in past couple of years, taliban changed their name
[5:16:23 AM] Pakistani: now the taliban’s are all usa allies one
[5:16:31 AM] Pakistani: working on new target
[5:16:37 AM] Pakistani: so now usa forces are going out of here
[5:16:48 AM] Pakistani: giving control to the allies of taliban and indian forces in the region
[5:16:58 AM] Pakistani: coz sort of like
[5:17:07 AM] Pakistani: illuminati may hav decided as now usa has crashed alot
[5:17:10 AM] Pakistani: they will use india now on
[5:17:31 AM] Pakistani: as it’s against Islam and Pakistan as much as USA is currently
[5:17:46 AM] Pakistani: and like
[5:17:51 AM] Pakistani: the operation going on in Pakistan
[5:17:56 AM] Pakistani: is not against terrorists
[5:17:59 AM] Pakistani: but against usa forces
[5:18:02 AM] Pakistani: and black water
[5:18:34 AM] Pakistani: the initial talibans were no one aliens
[5:18:37 AM] Pakistani: they were ppl from us
[5:18:42 AM] Pakistani: i know many former talibans personally
[5:18:43 AM] American: so the USA is “outsourcing” the “war” to the indian’s?
[5:18:46 AM] Pakistani: and everyone inpakistan does
[5:18:48 AM] Pakistani: umm
[5:18:49 AM] Pakistani: no
[5:18:50 AM] Pakistani: usa isn’t
[5:19:03 AM] Pakistani: illuminati is retiring usa and using india now
[5:19:04 AM] Pakistani: mayb
[5:19:47 AM] Pakistani: currently iran and Pakistan are main anti jew and anti israel countries
[5:19:53 AM] Pakistani: other countries have sort of submitted to it
[5:19:56 AM] Pakistani: all Muslim ones too
[5:20:06 AM] Pakistani: like Saudia is also ally with usa
[5:20:17 AM] Pakistani: only iran is openly against usa and israel
[5:20:19 AM] Pakistani: through hizbollah
[5:20:45 AM] Pakistani: and Pakistan is although apparently ally to usa
[5:21:04 AM] Pakistani: basiclaly isi is diff network
[5:21:09 AM] Pakistani: it was trained by ur cia initialy
[5:21:15 AM] Pakistani: but its completely diff now
[5:21:29 AM] Pakistani: and about usa and pakistan friendship, like the recent incident
[5:21:54 AM] Pakistani: the Pakistan army officials left us from airport when they were interrogated on airport
[5:22:04 AM] Pakistani: i mean Pak army dnt feel friendly about usa
[5:22:11 AM] Pakistani: and usa dnt feel about them as friendly too
[5:22:18 AM] Pakistani: but coz we are not a big power
[5:22:19 AM] Pakistani: or nation
[5:22:25 AM] Pakistani: we need to apparently say we are friends
[5:22:38 AM] Pakistani: oh and btw, all this wht i am talking about is political stuff
[5:22:42 AM] Pakistani: not about person to person
[5:22:47 AM] Pakistani: like i hav nothing against u :)
[5:22:51 AM] American: I understand
[5:22:56 AM] American: go on please
[5:23:00 AM] American: very interesting
[5:23:01 AM] Pakistani: hmm
[5:23:07 AM] Pakistani: wht does ur media say?
[5:23:22 AM] Pakistani: btw one more thing
[5:23:32 AM] American: they say everyone from middle east HATES USA :)
[5:23:36 AM] Pakistani: Islam don’t allow killing of anyone except the one who is attacking you
[5:23:39 AM] American: something like that
[5:23:47 AM] Pakistani: like even in war
[5:23:53 AM] Pakistani: if you have enemies in front of u
[5:23:57 AM] Pakistani: and they are not attacking
[5:24:00 AM] Pakistani: or have surrendered
[5:24:03 AM] Pakistani: no one can kill them
[5:24:06 AM] Pakistani: or damage their properties
[5:24:20 AM] Pakistani: so killing innocents, women, children and suicide attacks is strictly prohibited
[5:24:27 AM] Pakistani: then why do they find only muslims doing it?
[5:24:32 AM] Pakistani: well many answers to it
[5:24:48 AM] Pakistani: as i said usa is being used as a force from that world to middle east
[5:25:03 AM] Pakistani: similarly the same crew is using middle east people as force for suicide attacks
[5:25:22 AM] Pakistani: and ppl who were captured here just before they were going to do a suicide bomb blast
[5:25:26 AM] Pakistani: they wre in hypnotized state
[5:25:43 AM] Pakistani: and like, if a jew kills some one
[5:25:47 AM] Pakistani: we cant say jews are killers
[5:25:54 AM] Pakistani: similarly if some one who is muslim kills
[5:26:01 AM] Pakistani: its not the whole muslim nation who is like tht
[5:26:10 AM] Pakistani: and about everyone hates america
[5:26:11 AM] Pakistani: well no
[5:26:15 AM] Pakistani: its just another country
[5:26:25 AM] Pakistani: although developed (techonologically only)
[5:26:38 AM] Pakistani: like
[5:26:44 AM] Pakistani: if usa was so much developed in warfare even
[5:26:49 AM] Pakistani: it wouldnt fail in afghanistan
[5:26:58 AM] Pakistani: which is a simple old poor country
[5:27:10 AM] Pakistani: hey i have a question
[5:27:18 AM] Pakistani: do common people there believe in spirituality?
[5:27:21 AM] Pakistani: and special powers?
[5:27:31 AM] Pakistani: like here its common occurance in war specially
[5:27:45 AM] American: yes and no. about %65 of people believe
[5:27:47 AM] Pakistani: hmm
[5:27:48 AM] Pakistani: gr8
[5:27:49 AM] Pakistani: :)
[5:27:51 AM] American: the rest not so much
[5:28:01 AM] Pakistani: anyway
[5:28:10 AM] Pakistani: its all heading towards some event
[5:28:23 AM] Pakistani: whts the name u give to the guy who is anti christ?
[5:28:27 AM] Pakistani: we call it dajal
[5:28:37 AM] American: how do people of Pakistan View Oboma?
[5:28:49 AM] Pakistani: hmm
[5:28:58 AM] Pakistani: better than bush
[5:29:04 AM] Pakistani: but as i said
[5:29:07 AM] Pakistani: its not in his control
[5:29:25 AM] Pakistani: btw
[5:29:29 AM] Pakistani: ppl in middle east
[5:29:32 AM] Pakistani: hate israel alot :P
[5:29:35 AM] Pakistani: not usa
[5:29:47 AM] Pakistani: but like
[5:29:47 AM] American: ic
[5:29:51 AM] Pakistani: we have jews in afghanistan
[5:29:53 AM] Pakistani: and iran
[5:29:55 AM] Pakistani: and pakistan
[5:29:59 AM] Pakistani: but we dnt kill or fight with them
[5:30:08 AM] Pakistani: but coz israel is killing alot of palestinians etc
[5:30:15 AM] Pakistani: and not even allow journalists to film there
[5:30:23 AM] Pakistani: so again
[5:30:26 AM] Pakistani: its not about jews
[5:30:29 AM] Pakistani: its about israel
[5:30:41 AM] Pakistani: and more specifically anti palestinian activities
[5:30:53 AM] Pakistani: r u jew?
[5:31:33 AM] American: no
[5:31:38 AM] Pakistani: then?
[5:31:49 AM] American: I have no beliefs
[5:31:56 AM] Pakistani: hmmm
[5:32:02 AM] Pakistani: u dnt believe in God?
[5:32:06 AM] Pakistani: athiest ?
[5:32:26 AM] American: i don’t disbleive or believe
[5:32:30 AM] Pakistani: ok
[5:32:30 AM] Pakistani: :)
[5:32:35 AM] American: I am just living
[5:32:43 AM] Pakistani: hmmm
[5:32:46 AM] Pakistani: everyone of us is
[5:32:54 AM] Pakistani: i am muslim coz i was born in muslim family
[5:32:58 AM] Pakistani: and ppl around me are muslims
[5:33:09 AM] Pakistani: we are influenced by our enviroment
[5:33:16 AM] Pakistani: n where we are brought up
[5:33:39 AM] Pakistani: i believe strongly in Islam
[5:33:40 AM] Pakistani: and God
[5:33:40 AM] American: btw, how did your english get so good?
[5:33:48 AM] Pakistani: umm
[5:33:53 AM] Pakistani: is it good?
[5:33:57 AM] Pakistani: its just normal
[5:33:59 AM] American: yes
[5:34:03 AM] American: no good
[5:34:06 AM] Pakistani: umm
[5:34:13 AM] American: you spell better then me and faster ;)
[5:34:16 AM] Pakistani: lolx
[5:34:22 AM] Pakistani: well
[5:34:33 AM] Pakistani: schools here have english as a subject
[5:34:43 AM] Pakistani: and all our professional degree books are in english
[5:34:46 AM] Pakistani: and i am a medical student
[5:34:57 AM] Pakistani: and a blogger too etc
[5:35:07 AM] American: oic
[5:35:20 AM] American: very cool
[5:35:23 AM] Pakistani: :)
[5:35:36 AM] American: you rent a apartment?
[5:35:40 AM] Pakistani: ya
[5:35:50 AM] American: if so, how much is a aprtment renting for there?
[5:35:57 AM] American: in USD
[5:36:13 AM] Pakistani: i live in upper portion of a 2 floor house
[5:36:24 AM] Pakistani: it costs me almost 400 usd
[5:36:26 AM] Pakistani: per month
[5:36:30 AM] Pakistani: but prices here vary alot
[5:36:34 AM] Pakistani: i live in capital of Pakistan
[5:36:44 AM] Pakistani: and average sector of the capital
[5:36:59 AM] American: ic
[5:37:06 AM] Pakistani: in my city the prices range from 200$ to 2000$
[5:37:13 AM] Pakistani: but in the city just next to islamabad,
[5:37:14 AM] American: wow, i would have thought it would be like $50
[5:37:18 AM] Pakistani: the prices are from below 100$
[5:37:23 AM] Pakistani: ya
[5:37:26 AM] Pakistani: there are many cities
[5:37:30 AM] Pakistani: with 50-100$
[5:37:37 AM] Pakistani: infact most of them are
[5:37:40 AM] Pakistani: Islamabad is different
[5:37:48 AM] Pakistani: like in the capital thre is minimum of terrorism
[5:37:51 AM] Pakistani: and stuff
[5:38:07 AM] Pakistani: and its very beautiful too :)
[5:38:19 AM] American: I can see it on google maps
[5:38:24 AM] American: it looks cool
[5:38:29 AM] Pakistani: hmm
[5:38:31 AM] Pakistani: :)
[5:39:03 AM] Pakistani: so u wanna know anything else? :P
[5:39:07 AM] Pakistani: u r welcome
[5:39:08 AM] Pakistani: ?
[5:39:33 AM] American: lol
[5:39:39 AM] Pakistani: btw about taliban and Pakistan army (who created taliban)
[5:39:45 AM] American: I am just understanding all you have told me
[5:39:46 AM] Pakistani: they destroyed the super power of tht time, russia
[5:39:50 AM] American: how old are you?
[5:39:53 AM] Pakistani: 24
[5:40:33 AM] American: ic. lots of people in your city have free internet?
[5:40:38 AM] Pakistani: no
[5:40:39 AM] Pakistani: :S
[5:40:47 AM] Pakistani: its not free here in any city
[5:40:52 AM] Pakistani: oh dialup is free
[5:40:57 AM] Pakistani: dsl / broadband is not
[5:41:05 AM] American: do you use reg. internet or have to go thru proxies to get out of Pak?
[5:41:10 AM] Pakistani: regular
[5:41:35 AM] American: nice
[5:41:41 AM] Pakistani: none of the site that i want to browse everyday has been blocked here

Poisonous milk all around you (specially Pakistan & India) – stop drinking it!

poisonous milk all around you specially in pakistanWanna know what you have been drinking in the name of Milk all your life? Yes! it’s not some thing that started happening now! its happening since decades (confirm in Pakistan) and the poison that you have been taking this poison in the name of the fabulous meal named MILK.

The milk and dairy milk products providing companies in Pakistan (Nestle, Haleeb, Olpers, etc) acquire milk from various providers all over the country. These countries have a standardized procedure to check and measure the quality of the milk being acquired from these distributors. The process of scanning the milk is either too weak or else the company is involved in this stuff too that the poisonous and impure product is provided and packaged in these companies and sold being called PURE MILK.

So lets find out what’s inside the product that we are taking in for years considering it to be pure milk. The purpose of this composition is to get the same viscosity and concentration of the few ingredients in the product (so called milk) that the milk products companies (Nestle, Haleeb, Olpers, etc) in [intlink id="18" type="category"]Pakistan [/intlink]check for.

The composition includes:

  • 1 kilogram milk
  • 1 kilogram cooking oil
  • 10 kilogram water
  • 1 kilogram milk powder
  • Carboxymethyl cellulose (cmc) to increase viscosity of the product (so called milk)
  • Urea (to replace LR)
  • Detergent
  • Liquid hydrogen to preserve milk over night
  • If it gets spilt, then caustic soda to make it reusable

I don’t think that anyone can consider a substance with such a composition to be milk or pure milk atleast.

Another thing to note is that the cattle is given artificial hormones to increase their milk production by using various substances like oxytocin. Oxytocin causes special changes in young females (affecting girls more than boys) and results in the early maturity of those individuals who utilize this product causing a dis balance in their personalities.

The info on the [intlink id="29" type="category"]issues[/intlink] in this article has been taken with reference from a Duniya TV channel program hasb-e-haal episode: 10th April, 2010.

Believe me, now i am truly confused what to do about the milk products (specially milk itself) being supplied by the milk products companies in Pakistan like nestle, olpers, haleeb, etc and in [intlink id="19" type="category"]India [/intlink]too.

Please note, this is not the fact about these dairy milk products companies. Local milk man (gawala) also sell this type of so called pure milk to the public on their door step. I don’t think there is any other way to acquire milk now other than having cattle at our home now! It’s not a joke ladies and gentlemen! this is really a serious matter. The product which is supplied to us in the name of pure milk by the gawala’s and the milk products companies is highly poisonous and damaging to the human body. This product is also one of the reason for the hair fall and early loss of color of hair (silver/white hair appearance) along with many other problems occurring in human body.

I am not sure if this is happening in other countries too but it definitely would be! (specially our adjacent neighbors, India and Afghanistan). May Allah give iman to these corrupt people who play with human life’s and bodies and filling them with toxins just for the sake of some money and worldly benefits. I hope all of us understand how milk is produced and what’s inside that packet of milk that is provided to use by local milk men and also reputable dairy milk products companies like nestle, haleeb, olpers etc.